Read with these questions
When you say an event happens for a reason, do you mean a cause, a purpose, or an explanation you can know?
What the texts say
- Romans 8:18–22 — Creation groans like a woman in childbirth, subjected to futility and waiting for freedom from decay.
Paul weighs present suffering against the glory still to be revealed.12 13 - Romans 8:26–27 — The Spirit intercedes for believers with wordless groanings when they do not know what to pray for as they ought. Piper contrasts their 'we do not know' here with the 'we know' of verse 28.14
- Romans 8:28 — The promise concerns a group, those who love God, further described as called according to purpose. This names who benefits, not who may hear the verse.1
Show 2 more key verses
- Romans 8:29–30 — God predestined those he foreknew to become like his Son; verse 29 gives this as the reason for verse 28. Verse 30 links predestining, calling, justifying and glorifying; the BSB translates all four in the past tense.2 15 16
- Romans 8:35–39 — Paul lists tribulation, distress, persecution, famine, nakedness, danger and the sword, then quotes a psalm about being killed all day long. He ends convinced that nothing in creation can separate believers from God's love in Christ.3 4 17
Background
Suffering before and after the promise Text
The paragraph runs from present suffering toward glory still to come, and the hardships of verse 35 lie ahead. ChrysostomJohn ChrysostomBishop of Constantinople from 398 (about 347–407), called “golden-mouthed” for his eloquence. The Catholic Encyclopedia calls him the chief representative of Antioch’s grammatical-historical interpretation, which opposed Origen’s allegorical reading.From: Baur; Baur; Baur; BaurAll terms → reads verse 28 as said to people in danger, and takes 'all things' to include even what seems painful, such as poverty, imprisonment, famine and death.6 sources6 sources12. Romans 8:1813. Romans 8:19–2214. Romans 8:26–273. Romans 8:35–364. Psalms 44:2218. Morris
The good and its goal Scholarship
Sanday and Headlam say verse 29 defines the goal of God's purpose exactly as conformity to the image of his Son, an inward likeness reached by gradual assimilation; Piper identifies the good from the same verse. Wesley glosses 'all things' as ease or pain, poverty or riches, working for 'spiritual and eternal good'.4 sources4 sources2. Romans 8:2919. Sanday 19029. Piper 202620. Wesley 1755
Joseph as the classic parallel Scholarship
In Genesis 50:20
Joseph tells his brothers that they intended evil but God intended it for good, to save many lives. The Septuagint there has 'for good things', the same preposition and adjective, plural, as Romans 8:28's 'for good': a verbal echo, not proof of allusion. PhiloPhilo of AlexandriaA Jewish philosopher of Alexandria (about 20 BCE–after 40 CE). The Jewish Encyclopedia describes his effort to harmonize Greek philosophy with Hebrew religion through allegorical interpretation of the Bible.From: Toy; ToyAll terms → has Joseph say God changed their evil designs to bring forth good things in abundance.21 22 23
Show 2 more background topics (Fate and providence in Jewish sources; The slogan in grief)
Fate and providence in Jewish sources Scholarship
JosephusJosephusA Jewish historian (37–after 100 CE), according to Steve Mason and the Jewish Encyclopedia. Mason explains that his Antiquities, completed in 93/94 CE, retells Judean history from creation to the eve of the war against Rome.From: Mason; Mason; Gottheil; Mason; MasonAll terms → reports that the Pharisees held some actions, but not all, to be the work of fate, the Essenes that fate governs all things, and the Sadducees that there is no fate. The Talmud (Berakhot 60b) cites a teaching in Rabbi Akiva's name that everything God does, he does for the best; a Jewish parallel, not a comment on Romans.24 25
The slogan in grief Scholarship
Kate Bowler's memoir, written after a stage IV cancer diagnosis, asks what it means to die in a society that insists everything happens for a reason; her podcast called Romans 8:28 'the Pauline version' of the slogan. Nicholas Wolterstorff, recalling his son Eric's death, wrote that he was 'baffled and hurt', his wound 'an unanswered question'.26 27 28
Where else Scripture speaks of it
TextGenesis 50:20
Joseph's brothers intended evil, but God intended it for good. The Catechism and Piper both appeal to the verse, and Ehrman uses it as his example of redemptive suffering.20As for you, what you intended against me for evil, God intended for good, in order to accomplish a day like this—to preserve the lives of many people.
Psalms 44:22
Paul adds this psalm about being killed all day long to his list of hardships that might seem to separate believers from the love of Christ.22Yet for Your sake we face death all day long; we are considered as sheep to be slaughtered.
How the traditions read it
TraditionHow different traditions read these texts, in their own terms.
Early church: Greek · Chrysostom, God uses the grievous things themselves
John ChrysostomJohn ChrysostomBishop of Constantinople from 398 (about 347–407), called “golden-mouthed” for his eloquence. The Catholic Encyclopedia calls him the chief representative of Antioch’s grammatical-historical interpretation, which opposed Origen’s allegorical reading.From: Baur; Baur; Baur; BaurAll terms → says
Paul does not promise that no grievance comes near those who love God, but that God uses the grievous things themselves to make them approved. The purpose in 'called according to purpose' includes that of those called; all were called, but not all obeyed.18
Early church: Latin · Augustine, God's purpose reaches even the believer's straying
AugustineAugustineA North African theologian (354–430), born at Tagaste, who served as bishop of Hippo from 396 until his death, according to the Catholic Encyclopedia.From: Portalié; PortaliéAll terms → says the elect were called according to God's purpose, not their own, and none of them perishes; even their straying God makes work for their good. Elsewhere he says God would not permit any evil unless he could bring good even out of evil.29 30 31
Catholic · Providence brings good from evil, which never becomes good
The Catechism quotes Romans 8:28 with God as subject, confirmed, it says, by saints such as Catherine of Siena, Thomas More and Julian of Norwich. Citing Joseph, it teaches that God brings good from the consequences of evil, but evil never becomes a good. Thomas AquinasThomas AquinasA philosopher, theologian and Doctor of the Church, born in 1225 or 1227 and deceased in 1274, according to the 1912 Catholic Encyclopedia. He wrote the Summa theologica.From: Kennedy; KennedyAll terms → holds that foreknowledge of merits is not the cause of predestination.4 sources4 sources32. Church 199733. Church 199734. Province)35. Province)
Show 9 more interpretations (Orthodox, Protestant: Reformed, Protestant: Methodist…)
Orthodox · Providential guidance in every reading
Protestant: Reformed · Calvin, a passage about the cross
John CalvinJohn CalvinA Protestant reformer (1509–1564) who settled in Geneva in 1536, with an interval away, according to the 1911 Encyclopaedia Britannica. Alongside the Institutes of the Christian Religion, he wrote commentaries on Scripture.From: Alexander; Alexander; Alexander; Alexander; AlexanderAll terms → says Paul speaks in verse 28 only of adversities, since the passage's subject is the cross. He reads the foreknowledge of verse 29 not as bare prescience but as the adoption by which God always distinguished his children from the reprobate.38 39
Protestant: Methodist · Wesley, spiritual good and foreknown believers
John WesleyJohn WesleyAn English clergyman (1703–1791) whose Methodist movement developed within the Church of England and later gave rise to separate denominations, according to Weber’s 1911 account.From: Telford; WeberAll terms → takes 'all things' to cover the ten thousand changes of life, working for spiritual and eternal good, and reads 'whom he did foreknow' as those God foreknew as believers.20 40
Protestant: evangelical · Piper, God meant it for good
Protestant: Anglican · Wright, God works with those who love him, and lament
Academic (critical) · Sanday and Headlam, likeness to Christ, freedom and sovereignty
Latter-day Saints · A conditional promise in Doctrine and Covenants
Doctrine and Covenants 90:24 echoes Romans 8:28, promising that all things will work together for the hearers' good if they walk uprightly and remember their covenant.45
Jehovah's Witnesses · Not everything that happens is God's will
Reasoning From the Scriptures, a Jehovah's Witnesses reference work, says fate is not a Bible teaching and that not everything that happens is 'the will of God', for example when some fail to repent.11
Skeptic/secular · Ehrman, some suffering is redemptive, but that is no general answer
Common misunderstandings
TextThings people commonly believe the text says, checked against it.
A common belief among believers
Myth Loving God means serious trouble will stay away.
A common belief among believers
Myth If God brings good out of evil, the evil itself was good.
Actually
Joseph still calls his brothers' intention evil, and the CatechismCatechism of the Catholic ChurchAn official summary of Catholic teaching that John Paul II ordered published in 1992, declaring it a sure norm for teaching the faith. He approved and promulgated its Latin typical edition in 1997.From: II; II; II; II; IIAll terms →, citing Joseph, says evil never becomes a good. Osburn, as Noguchi quotes him, notes that Paul does not call the hardships of verse 35 good.21 33 48A common belief among believers
Myth Bibles that say 'God works' have added a word to the verse.
Actually P46, Alexandrinus and Vaticanus have 'ho theos', though NA28 prints the shorter text. Even without it, Noguchi notes, God can be the understood subject.4 sources4 sources6. Noguchi 19967. Sanday 190249. this site's data50. Noguchi 1996
Show 3 more misconceptions
A common belief among believers
Myth Ehrman denies that suffering can ever bring good.
Actually Ehrman accepts that some suffering brings good, with Joseph as his example. His objection is that this does not explain suffering generally.47
A common belief among skeptics
Myth Romans 8 promises believers a life without suffering, so their suffering disproves it.
A common belief among skeptics
Myth Everyone who quotes Romans 8:28 believes that God wills every event.
Words worth a closer look
TextWhere the wording in different Bibles diverges, and why.
Romans 8:28 · “God as the stated subject” ho theos
Sanday and Headlam report that Codex Alexandrinus (A), Codex Vaticanus (B) and some quotations in OrigenOrigenA Christian scholar and teacher of Alexandria, born in 185 and deceased probably in 253 or 254, according to the Catholic Encyclopedia. Marco Rizzi explains that he interpreted the Septuagint allegorically, like Philo.From: Prat; Prat; Prat; Rizzi; PratAll terms → add 'ho theos' (God) after the verb. Noguchi identifies P46, the earliest manuscript witness in his discussion, as supporting the longer text, and grants that Sinaiticus, C, D, G and the great bulk of manuscripts have the shorter. Of the eight printed editions STEPBible compares, only Westcott and Hort print 'ho theos'; NA28 does not.4 sources4 sources7. Sanday 19026. Noguchi 19965. Noguchi 199649. this site's data
Romans 8:28 · “Who or what works?” synergei
Noguchi notes that, apart from the variant, the verb could have three subjects, God (stated or understood), 'all things', or the Holy Spirit. Sanday and Headlam say that with 'ho theos' the verb must be transitive, God 'causes all things to work'. N. T. Wright reads God as working all things for good 'with' those who love him.50 7 42
Romans 8:28 · “'All things work together' or 'God works'”
Of the nine English editions in this site's database, only the BSB makes God the subject who works; the other eight, including the KJV, make 'all things' the subject. Noguchi lists the RSV as following the longer reading and finds 'God works' also in the Jerusalem Bible, NIV, NASB and Today's English Version. English wording alone does not show which Greek text was followed.51 52 53
Compare the versions
KJVAnd we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.
BSBAnd we know that God works all things together for the good of those who love Him, who are called according to His purpose.
Show 1 more translation notes (“The familiar wording”)
Romans 8:28 · “The familiar wording”
Noguchi says 'all things co-operate' was accepted in the Western Church from early times, as the VulgateVulgateA Latin Bible closely associated with Jerome, with contributions from other translators. Dionisio Candido writes that it was the official Bible of Western Christianity for centuries.From: CandidoAll terms →'s 'omnia cooperantur' shows. As Noguchi reports them, C. H. Dodd held the familiar translation inadmissible whichever reading is adopted, because it voices an optimism that 'it will all come right in the end'; C. E. B. Cranfield replied that neither JeromeJeromeA Latin Church Father associated with the Vulgate, born in the fourth century and deceased in 420. Birth dates differ: Louis Saltet gives about 340–342, while Dionisio Candido gives 347.From: Saltet; CandidoAll terms → nor the 1611 KJV translators could be charged with such 'evolutionary optimism'.54 55
BSBAnd we know that God works all things together for the good of those who love Him, who are called according to His purpose.
KJVAnd we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.
History and evidence
EvidenceEach claim judged on its own, with the limits of the evidence stated.
- Open
Paul wrote 'God' (ho theos) as the stated subject in Romans 8:28.
The cited witnesses divide.
Why this verdict
Claims about the text
Confidence: high
The cited witnesses divide. P46, A and B have 'ho theos'; Sinaiticus, C, D, G and the bulk of manuscripts do not. Noguchi's 'fifty-fifty' is his own judgment. Open here records disagreement in the cited scholarship, not equal probabilities.4 sources4 sources5. Noguchi 19966. Noguchi 19967. Sanday 19028. this site's data
Contested · Sanday and Headlam and Noguchi favor the longer reading; the UBS committee, as Noguchi quotes Metzger, preferred the shorter, which NA28 prints. (as of 2026-11-09)
- Supported
Romans 8 goes on describing suffering after its promise of good.
Verses 35-36 name tribulation, persecution, famine, danger and the sword, with a psalm about being killed all day long.
Why this verdict
Claims about the text
Confidence: high
Verses 35-36 name tribulation, persecution, famine, danger and the sword, with a psalm about being killed all day long. Osburn, as quoted by Noguchi, argues that
Paul does not call these misfortunes good.3 4 48Cross-community agreement · Chrysostom reads the verse as said to people in danger; Calvin says the passage's subject is the cross; Osburn, as quoted by Noguchi, notes that the hardships of verse 35 are not called good. (as of 2026-11-09)
- Outside what evidence can settle
Romans 8:28's promise holds, so that all things work for the good of those who love God.
The Catechism says faith gives certainty that God would not permit an evil without causing good to come from it, by ways fully known only in eternal life; Ehrman says all the evidence seems to point to the contrary.
Why this verdict
Theological claims
Confidence: high
The Catechism says faith gives certainty that God would not permit an evil without causing good to come from it, by ways fully known only in eternal life; Ehrman says all the evidence seems to point to the contrary. The sources document belief and objection; they do not establish or refute the promise's fulfillment.10 47
Contested · The Catechism affirms by faith that God brings good from every evil he permits; Ehrman says the evidence seems to point the other way. (as of 2026-11-09)
Hard questions
The strongest case, the strongest responses, then a plain assessment of where the logic holds.
Does the verse say that all things work together, or that God works all things?
Whether Paul wrote 'God' is unresolved in the cited scholarship, and even without the word, God can be read as the subject.
See the argument
The strongest case
Sanday and Headlam (1902) argue that a scribe was much less likely to add 'ho theos' than to omit it, so the longer reading 'must be allowed to have the greater appearance of originality'; with it, God 'causes all things to work'. Noguchi (1996), noting that P46 has the longer text, concludes that
Paul wrote 'ho theos', while conceding that his combined view is 'the most unfavourable' and not new.8 sources8 sources7. Sanday 19026. Noguchi 199656. Noguchi 19965. Noguchi 199649. this site's data50. Noguchi 199637. Reardon 20138. this site's data
- P1. The witnesses divide, with P46, A and B adding 'ho theos' and Sinaiticus, C, D, G and the bulk of manuscripts lacking it.6 7 5No listed response challenges this premise
- P2. Sanday and Headlam and Noguchi infer that the longer reading is original, so that God is the one who makes all things work.
→ Conclusion. Paul named God as the one who causes all things to work for good.
Strongest responses
The shorter text has the wider support. Noguchi grants the shorter text's support in Sinaiticus, C, D, G and the great bulk of manuscripts, and quotes Metzger that a majority of the UBS committee judged the longer text, though ancient and noteworthy, too narrowly supported to be admitted. NA28 prints the shorter text.5 49
God can be the subject without the added words. Noguchi notes that, apart from the variant, the verb could have three subjects: God, stated or understood; 'all things'; or the Holy Spirit. A 'God works' translation can therefore come from the variant or from supplying God as an unstated subject.50
The meaning survives the variant. Reardon notes the textual problem and lists three readings, God works with, God makes everything work together, and everything works together. Each, he says, testifies to God's providential guidance of the lives of those who love him.37
Plain assessment
The longer reading has P46, A and B and the support of Sanday and Headlam and Noguchi; the shorter has Sinaiticus, C, D, G and the bulk of manuscripts, the UBS committee's preference as Noguchi quotes Metzger, and NA28. Noguchi's grammar allows God as the understood subject either way, and Reardon finds providence in every reading. The variant is unresolved, but it does not decide whether God is at work in the verse.
What would change this assessment: Directly checked textual commentary and apparatus, rather than Metzger as quoted by Noguchi.
Assessment uses: God as the stated subject · Who or what works? · Paul wrote 'God' (ho theos) as the stated subject in Romans 8:28. · Orthodox
What is 'the good', and does 'all things' include even a believer's own failings?
Read with verse 29, the good is likeness to Christ; whether verse 28 also covers believers' own failings divides Augustine and Calvin.
See the argument
The strongest case
Sanday and Headlam say verse 29 defines the goal of God's purpose exactly as 'conformity to the image of His Son', and Piper identifies the good from the same verse. Augustine reads 'all things' so absolutely that if any of the elect go astray, God makes even this work for their good, so that they return humbler and better instructed.7 sources7 sources2. Romans 8:2919. Sanday 19029. Piper 202630. Holmes38. Owen) 184920. Wesley 175548. Noguchi 1996
- P1. Verse 29 gives the reason for verse 28, that those God foreknew he predestined to be conformed to his Son's image.2No listed response challenges this premise
- P2. Augustine infers that 'all things' extends even to believers' straying, which God makes serve their good.
→ Conclusion. The promised good is likeness to Christ, and it reaches even a believer's own failures.
Strongest responses
This passage is about adversity. CalvinJohn CalvinA Protestant reformer (1509–1564) who settled in Geneva in 1536, with an interval away, according to the 1911 Encyclopaedia Britannica. Alongside the Institutes of the Christian Religion, he wrote commentaries on Scripture.From: Alexander; Alexander; Alexander; Alexander; AlexanderAll terms → says Paul speaks in verse 28 only of adversities, because the subject of the passage is the cross. Augustine's point, that the saints' sins serve their salvation, is true, he grants, but does not belong here.38
The good is not the misfortune itself. Carroll Osburn, as quoted by Noguchi, argues that the verse differs from Stoic resignation to Fate because Paul does not call life's misfortunes good; the tribulation and persecution of verse 35 are not presented as 'good'.48
Plain assessment
Sanday and Headlam and Piper read the good through verse 29 as likeness to Christ, and Wesley calls it 'spiritual and eternal good'. The disagreement is over range. Augustine includes the elect's straying; Calvin grants that this is true but limits verse 28 to adversities. Osburn, as Noguchi reports him, notes that Paul does not call the misfortunes themselves good.
What would change this assessment: A directly checked range of modern commentaries on the scope of 'all things'.
Assessment uses: The good and its goal · Early church: Latin · Protestant: Reformed · Protestant: evangelical · Romans 8 goes on describing suffering after its promise of good.
Does it mean that God intends every event, the bad ones included, for good?
The verse promises good to those who love God; whether God intends every event for that good, or permits evil and brings good from it, is disputed.
See the argument
The strongest case
John Piper, in an episode titled 'Everything Happens for a Reason', reads Genesis 50:20 as saying that God 'meant' the evil done to
Joseph for good, 'not used it', as part of God's comprehensive sovereignty. He declines to limit the 'all things' of Romans 8:28, which he says especially includes suffering, and takes the good to be conformity to the image of God's Son.8 sources8 sources21. Genesis 50:201. Romans 8:289. Piper 202633. Church 199710. Church 199711. Bible47. Gross) 200843. Wright 2020
- P1. Joseph tells his brothers that they intended evil against him but God intended it for good, to save many lives.21No listed response challenges this premise
- P2. Piper infers from Joseph that God means the evil done to his people for good, rather than only using it, and that Romans 8:28 covers such evils.
→ Conclusion. Every event in a believer's life, evil ones included, is meant by God for their good, which is likeness to Christ.
Strongest responses
God permits evil and brings good from it. The Catechism also cites Joseph's words, to teach that providence can bring good from the consequences of evil, but adds that evil never becomes a good. It calls God's permission of physical and moral evil a mystery, and says faith is certain that he would not permit an evil without causing a good to come from it.33 10
Not everything that happens is God's will. Reasoning From the Scriptures says fate is not a Bible teaching and that not everything that happens is 'the will of God'; it is not God's will, for example, when some fail to repent.11
One example does not explain suffering in general. Bart Ehrman uses Joseph's story as his Hebrew BibleHebrew BibleA name academics offered as a neutral alternative to “Old Testament”. Amy-Jill Levine argues the label blurs real differences between the Christian Old Testament and the Jewish Tanakh.From: LevineAll terms → example of the view that suffering is redemptive. He accepts that some suffering brings good, but rejects this as an adequate explanation of suffering generally.47
Christians are not called to explain each event. N. T. Wright, writing in TIME early in the coronavirus pandemic, said it is no part of the Christian vocation to be able to explain what is happening and why; Christians should lament instead, as the Spirit groans in Romans 8.43
Plain assessment
Genesis keeps the brothers' intent evil while ascribing a good purpose to God. Piper reads this as God meaning the evil for good; the Catechism, citing the same verse, as God bringing good from evil's consequences; the Jehovah's Witnesses deny that every event is God's will. Ehrman grants Joseph as redemptive suffering but not as a general explanation, and Wright declines to explain events at all. Whether God intends each event is where these readers divide.
What would change this assessment: Directly checked exegesis of Paul's 'all things' and 'purpose' would bear on the reading, not on the theology.
Assessment uses: Joseph as the classic parallel · Protestant: evangelical · Catholic · Jehovah's Witnesses · Skeptic/secular · Protestant: Anglican · Rom.8.28
Does the link to predestination (verses 29-30) mean the purpose is God's choice alone?
Paul ties the promise to God's purpose, calling and glorifying; whether that purpose is God's choice alone or includes the response of those called divides the interpreters cited here.
See the argument
The strongest case
Augustine says the elect were called according to a purpose that is God's, not their own, and that none of them perishes. Calvin reads the foreknowledge of verse 29 not as bare prescience but as adoption. Thomas Aquinas, answering an objection drawn from 'whom He foreknew', holds that foreknowledge of merits is not the cause of predestination.11 sources11 sources15. Romans 8:3016. Sanday 190229. Holmes39. Owen) 184934. Province)35. Province)40. Wesley 187218. Morris44. Sanday 190237. Reardon 201357. Wesley 1872
- P1. Verse 30 links predestining, calling, justifying and glorifying; the BSB renders all four in the past tense.15 16No listed response challenges this premise
- P2. Augustine, Calvin and AquinasThomas AquinasA philosopher, theologian and Doctor of the Church, born in 1225 or 1227 and deceased in 1274, according to the 1912 Catholic Encyclopedia. He wrote the Summa theologica.From: Kennedy; KennedyAll terms → infer that the purpose is God's, and that his choosing is not grounded in anything he foresees in people.
→ Conclusion. The assurance of verses 28-30 rests on God's prior choice of his people.
Strongest responses
God foreknew believers. In his sermon On Predestination, Wesley reads 'whom he did foreknow' as those God foreknew as believers. He is inclined to think Paul describes not a chain of causes and effects but the order in which God works.40 57
The purpose of those called counts too. Chrysostom reads 'called according to purpose' as including the purpose of those called; the call was not forced, and not all obeyed. Sanday and Headlam report that the great mass of Greek commentators took the phrase to mean the person's own free choice.18 44
Paul affirms both without drawing the line. Sanday and Headlam hold that Paul states human freedom and divine sovereignty alternately, without attempting an exact delimitation between them, and call Augustine's distinction between two kinds of call a straining of the text.44 58
Providence, not a decree of final destinies. Reardon argues that verses 29-30 describe providential activity rather than a decree assigning people to heaven or damnation. Augustine's misunderstanding of predestination to damnation must, he believes, rank among theology's deepest tragedies.37
Plain assessment
The sequence of verse 30 is explicit; how it relates to human response is not. Augustine, Calvin and Aquinas ground it in God's purpose and choice. Wesley grounds predestination in God's foreknowledge of believers, and Chrysostom includes the called person's own purpose. Sanday and Headlam leave freedom and sovereignty undelimited, and Reardon reads providence rather than a decree of final destinies.
What would change this assessment: A directly checked Arminius passage and modern exegesis of 'foreknew' and 'purpose'.
Assessment uses: Rom.8.29-Rom.8.30 · Early church: Latin · Protestant: Reformed · Protestant: Methodist · Early church: Greek · Academic (critical) · Orthodox · Paul affirms both without drawing the line · Providence, not a decree of final destinies
Does the promise answer the problem of evil, or tell sufferers why it happened?
Romans 8 promises good amid continuing suffering; whether that answers why people suffer is disputed, and whether the promise holds lies outside what this evidence can settle.
See the argument
The strongest case
Bart Ehrman writes that suffering was ultimately the reason he lost his faith; he could no longer reconcile the claims of faith with the facts of life. Some suffering is redemptive, he grants, as in Joseph's story, but that does not explain suffering generally. Free will can explain human evils like the Holocaust, he argues, but not a child dying of starvation or a tsunami, and calling it all a mystery in effect says there is no answer. In Hume's Dialogues the character Philo restates 'Epicurus's old questions', that if God is willing but unable to prevent evil he is impotent, and if able but unwilling, malevolent.11 sources11 sources13. Romans 8:19–2214. Romans 8:26–273. Romans 8:35–364. Psalms 44:2246. Ehrman 200847. Gross) 200859. Hume 177960. Province)10. Church 199741. Alcorn 201961. Willimon 2008
- P1. Romans 8 sets its promise beside creation's groaning, believers' uncertain prayer and hardships still to come.4 sources4 sources13. Romans 8:19–2214. Romans 8:26–273. Romans 8:35–364. Psalms 44:22No listed response challenges this premise
- P2. Ehrman argues that neither redemptive outcomes, nor free will, nor an appeal to mystery explains suffering in general.
→ Conclusion. The Bible's answers, including good brought out of suffering, do not explain why people suffer.
Strongest responses
Some goods require that some evils be permitted. Thomas Aquinas argues that providence permits some evils because, if all evil were prevented, much good would be absent; there would be no patience of martyrs without persecution. This greater-good account differs from the free-will defense Ehrman criticizes.60
A mystery known fully in eternal life. The Catechism calls God's permission of physical and moral evil a mystery. Faith, it says, gives the certainty that God would not permit an evil without causing a good to come from it, by ways we shall fully know only in eternal life.10
The Bible's answers supplement one another. Randy Alcorn, writing against Ehrman, argues that the Bible's different answers to suffering supplement rather than contradict one another, and that Ehrman's case appears persuasive because of what he leaves out.41
Scripture speaks through ambiguity. Reviewing Ehrman's book in 2008, the Methodist bishop William Willimon argued that Ehrman demands logic and dismisses God, whereas ambiguity, dissonance and conflict are the usual way Scripture presents its truth.61
Plain assessment
Romans 8 does not present suffering as resolved; creation groans and hardship continues. Ehrman finds no general explanation of suffering in redemptive outcomes, free will or mystery. Aquinas answers with a greater-good account, the Catechism with faith's certainty, Alcorn with the Bible's answers taken together, and Willimon by questioning the demand for logic. Whether God brings the promised good is a theological claim the sources here neither establish nor refute.
What would change this assessment: Sourced philosophical responses to the problem of evil, not yet gathered here.
Assessment uses: Suffering before and after the promise · Skeptic/secular · Catholic · Protestant: evangelical · Some goods require that some evils be permitted · Scripture speaks through ambiguity · Romans 8:28's promise holds, so that all things work for the good of those who love God.
Check yourself
How does verse 28 describe the people its promise concerns?
As those who love God, who are called according to purpose.1
What goal does the next verse name?
Being conformed to the image of God's Son, so that he is the firstborn among many brothers.2
For reflection
What would it mean to sit with someone in a loss without claiming to know the reason for it?
What is the difference between finding hope in a promise and showing that it is fulfilled?
Keep going
Joseph and his brothers Coming
Joseph's words about his brothers' evil intent and God's good intent are the parallel that Piper, the Catechism and Ehrman all discuss.4 sources4 sources21. Genesis 50:2033. Church 19979. Piper 202647. Gross) 2008
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title = {Does Romans 8:28 mean everything happens for a reason?},
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url = {https://knowthetext.com/seek/questions/romans-8-28/},
year = {2026},
note = {Version 1; revised 2026-11-09; Fact-checked}
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Catholic Church, Catechism of the Catholic Church, 2nd ed. (scborromeo.org transcription) (1997)
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Thomas Aquinas (tr. Fathers of the English Dominican Province), Summa Theologiae I q.23 (New Advent)
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John Wesley, Sermon 58: On Predestination (1872 edition, Wesley Center Online) (1872)
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Romans 8:28
28And we know that God works all things together for the good of those who love Him, who are called according to His purpose.
Romans 8:29
29For those God foreknew, He also predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son, so that He would be the firstborn among many brothers.
Romans 8:35–36
8:35Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall trouble or distress or persecution or famine or nakedness or danger or sword? 36As it is written: “For Your sake we face death all day long; we are considered as sheep to be slaughtered.”
Psalms 44:22
22Yet for Your sake we face death all day long; we are considered as sheep to be slaughtered.
Makoto Noguchi, “The purpose of God: An exegetical and theological study of Romans 8:28 (MA thesis, Durham University)” (1996), p. 20 (scanned typescript; OCR spacing as saved)
Makoto Noguchi, “The purpose of God: An exegetical and theological study of Romans 8:28 (MA thesis, Durham University)” (1996), p. 149 (scanned typescript; OCR spacing as saved)
William Sanday and Arthur C. Headlam, A Critical and Exegetical Commentary on the Epistle to the Romans (ICC), 5th ed. (1902), p. 215, on 8:28
John Piper, “Everything Happens for a Reason (Ask Pastor John, episode 2236, Desiring God)” (2026), transcript
Catholic Church, Catechism of the Catholic Church, 2nd ed. (scborromeo.org transcription) (1997), para. 324
Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society, Reasoning From the Scriptures, "Fate" (jw.org), pp. 138-145
Romans 8:18
18I consider that our present sufferings are not comparable to the glory that will be revealed in us.
Romans 8:19–22
8:19The creation waits in eager expectation for the revelation of the sons of God. 20For the creation was subjected to futility, not by its own will, but because of the One who subjected it, in hope 21that the creation itself will be set free from its bondage to decay and brought into the glorious freedom of the children of God. 22We know that the whole creation has been groaning together in the pains of childbirth until the present time.
Romans 8:26–27
8:26In the same way, the Spirit helps us in our weakness. For we do not know how we ought to pray, but the Spirit Himself intercedes for us with groans too deep for words. 27And He who searches our hearts knows the mind of the Spirit, because the Spirit intercedes for the saints according to the will of God.
Romans 8:30
30And those He predestined, He also called; those He called, He also justified; those He justified, He also glorified.
William Sanday and Arthur C. Headlam, A Critical and Exegetical Commentary on the Epistle to the Romans (ICC), 5th ed. (1902), p. 218, on 8:30
Romans 8:38–39
8:38For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor principalities, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, 39neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
John Chrysostom (tr. J. B. Morris and W. H. Simcox, NPNF1 11), Homilies on Romans, Homily 15 (New Advent; public domain translation), Homily 15, on Rom 8:28
William Sanday and Arthur C. Headlam, A Critical and Exegetical Commentary on the Epistle to the Romans (ICC), 5th ed. (1902), p. 218, on 8:29
John Wesley, Explanatory Notes upon the New Testament, Romans (Wesley Center Online) (1755), on Rom 8:28
Genesis 50:20
20As for you, what you intended against me for evil, God intended for good, in order to accomplish a day like this—to preserve the lives of many people.
Philo of Alexandria (tr. C. D. Yonge), On Joseph (earlyjewishwritings.com), On Joseph XLIII
Flavius Josephus (tr. William Whiston), Antiquities of the Jews (Gutenberg 2848), Ant. 13.5.9
Babylonian Talmud (William Davidson edition, Sefaria), Berakhot 60b, Berakhot 60b
Penguin Random House, “Kate Bowler, Everything Happens for a Reason: And Other Lies I've Loved (Random House, 2018), book page” (2018), description
Everything Happens with Kate Bowler (Lemonada Media), “N.T. Wright: The Mystery of God (episode page)” (2023), episode description
Nicholas Wolterstorff, “On grief, and not theologizing about it (The Christian Century)” (2019), First Person column
Augustine (tr. P. Holmes and R. E. Wallis, NPNF1 5), On Rebuke and Grace (New Advent; public domain translation), ch. 14
Augustine (tr. P. Holmes and R. E. Wallis, NPNF1 5), On Rebuke and Grace (New Advent; public domain translation), ch. 24
Augustine (tr. J. F. Shaw, NPNF1 3), Enchiridion (New Advent; public domain translation), ch. 11
Catholic Church, Catechism of the Catholic Church, 2nd ed. (scborromeo.org transcription) (1997), para. 313
Catholic Church, Catechism of the Catholic Church, 2nd ed. (scborromeo.org transcription) (1997), para. 312
Thomas Aquinas (tr. Fathers of the English Dominican Province), Summa Theologiae I q.23 (New Advent), I q.23 a.5, sed contra
Thomas Aquinas (tr. Fathers of the English Dominican Province), Summa Theologiae I q.23 (New Advent), I q.23 a.5, objection 1 (the view Aquinas rejects)
Orthodox Church in America, “Scripture Readings, Monday, July 24, 2023” (2023), Epistle reading
Patrick Henry Reardon, “Predestination (Pastoral Ponderings, All Saints Antiochian Orthodox Church, Chicago)” (2013), 8 Dec 2013
John Calvin (tr. John Owen), Commentaries on the Epistle of Paul the Apostle to the Romans (Calvin Translation Society) (1849), p. 315, on 8:28
John Calvin (tr. John Owen), Commentaries on the Epistle of Paul the Apostle to the Romans (Calvin Translation Society) (1849), p. 317, on 8:29
John Wesley, Sermon 58: On Predestination (1872 edition, Wesley Center Online) (1872), para. 14
Randy Alcorn, “How 'Former Christian' Bart Ehrman's Testimony Should Encourage Us to Grapple Biblically with the Problem of Evil and Suffering (Eternal Perspective Ministries)” (2019), 18 Oct 2019
Everything Happens with Kate Bowler (Lemonada Media), “N.T. Wright: The Mystery of God (episode transcript)” (2023), transcript, 27:03
N. T. Wright, “Christianity Offers No Answers About the Coronavirus. It's Not Supposed To (TIME)” (2020), 29 March 2020
William Sanday and Arthur C. Headlam, A Critical and Exegetical Commentary on the Epistle to the Romans (ICC), 5th ed. (1902), p. 216, on 8:28
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, “Doctrine and Covenants 90”, D&C 90:24
Bart D. Ehrman, God's Problem: How the Bible Fails to Answer Our Most Important Question—Why We Suffer (HarperOne), excerpt via WFAE/NPR (2008), ch. 1 excerpt
Fresh Air (Terry Gross), WHYY/NPR, “Bart Ehrman, Questioning Religion on Why We Suffer (transcript, Fresh Air archive)” (2008), transcript
Makoto Noguchi, “The purpose of God: An exegetical and theological study of Romans 8:28 (MA thesis, Durham University)” (1996), p. 21 n. 5 (scanned typescript; OCR spacing as saved)
Checked in this site's verse database: STEPBible TAGNT tokens for Rom 8:28, editions per word
Makoto Noguchi, “The purpose of God: An exegetical and theological study of Romans 8:28 (MA thesis, Durham University)” (1996), p. 148 (scanned typescript; OCR spacing as saved)
Checked in this site's verse database: English editions of Rom 8:28 without "God works"
Makoto Noguchi, “The purpose of God: An exegetical and theological study of Romans 8:28 (MA thesis, Durham University)” (1996), pp. 38-39 (scanned typescript; OCR spacing as saved)
Makoto Noguchi, “The purpose of God: An exegetical and theological study of Romans 8:28 (MA thesis, Durham University)” (1996), p. 39 (scanned typescript; OCR spacing as saved)
Makoto Noguchi, “The purpose of God: An exegetical and theological study of Romans 8:28 (MA thesis, Durham University)” (1996), p. 21 (scanned typescript; OCR spacing as saved)
Makoto Noguchi, “The purpose of God: An exegetical and theological study of Romans 8:28 (MA thesis, Durham University)” (1996), p. 21 (scanned typescript; OCR spacing as saved), citing Dodd, Romans, p. 137
Makoto Noguchi, “The purpose of God: An exegetical and theological study of Romans 8:28 (MA thesis, Durham University)” (1996), pp. 148-149 (scanned typescript; OCR spacing as saved)
John Wesley, Sermon 58: On Predestination (1872 edition, Wesley Center Online) (1872), para. 4
William Sanday and Arthur C. Headlam, A Critical and Exegetical Commentary on the Epistle to the Romans (ICC), 5th ed. (1902), p. 217, on 8:28
David Hume, Dialogues Concerning Natural Religion (Gutenberg 4583) (1779), Part X
Thomas Aquinas (tr. Fathers of the English Dominican Province), Summa Theologiae I q.22 (New Advent), I q.22 a.2 ad 2
William H. Willimon, “Review of Bart D. Ehrman, God's Problem (The Christian Century)” (2008), 30 Dec 2008 issue